
EDIT : raw conversation with the idea of a bettering on both sides of ALL walls
“[02:49]
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?
id=181319 : on the one hand the fact that women are
oppressed in families where men take the religious affairs
to a strict level — on the other hand the absolute evidence
of the freedom denied and, the possibility of the terrorism
to come | this law is unconstitutional and will be rejected
as such by the institutions and by the European
government | without any intention to show what is not,
the least one can say is that the bill, voted mainly by the
conservative forces, is destined to be the ground of the
presidential vote of 2012, as it were the case in 2007 when
the future President, long former Interior affairs ministry,
used all of the racism enticements to gain the votes of the
2 to 3 millions of ultra-nationalists fanatics
[02:52]
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualite/politique/201007
13.OBS7090/un-defile-de-criminels-sur-les-champs-
elysees.html Just heard from the radio a testimony of an
African military saying “The language I speak is not mine
I am very proud to participate to this 14th of July in my
colonial country” … he said it all let’s hope there will be
no issues and may the memory pass on!
[03:07]
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/39122/ the
situation is critical for many of them who had to survive
in occasions where they had to kill or who witnessed
murders. The main problem is that they tend to gain the
sense of a Justice that cannot give way to forgiveness as
they were given no choice at the time when they had to
sacrifice part of themselves to cope with the events they
were to face personally, even if it was in the nam of the
Nation and for a reason they had chosen at first.
[03:09] Human being is, may be fascinated by the
cadaver he/she is/was/will be – yes it is definitely possible
to a living person to approach in good condition to
approach the apoptosis so closely that he/she realizes the
impact on his/her body and mind, of the deliquiescence
[03:13] the idea to cure them would be imo : 1)
these have learned to gain a good capacity to instantly
figure out the true stakes of a critical situation : why not
instruct them to learn to pacify the cities where they are –
this is what they tend to be naturally anyway as ptsd are
among the most difficult pathologies to cure if not taken
immediately under a medical survey as we can see with
children etc. – teach them elements of law, pathology,
medecine, science, offering them the opportunity to be who
they were : survivors that is, people who reacted with
excellent reflexes in order to protect what they had, a
living body and soul
[03:19] 2) as it is shown by many studies about
IQ, EQ and such measurement tools, the fact to teach a
person who have alledgedly lower results, the simple
investment in education is able to turn these cases into
normal and even excellent situations with relatively
minimal efforts – for instance, popular universities
delivering valid diplomas would help these veterans to
regain confidence, sense of sociality, and the VA could
run onto this axe : give back to them what they have been
looking for in military careers so that it can be turned a
benefice for the civil life : good teachers, good parents,
good neighbors, natural security frames within the city,
good social workers, good artists, good thinkers, political
militants of the turn they had received from this second or
third chance schools managing the wealth they represent
to the society all in all
[03:22] 3) over time and wars getting more
professionally oriented even, the ptsd situation would
regress and more of the people involved in these factual
occurences would see their existence valued and would
feel the resurgence of the episodes of stress less and less
often
[03:25] if one think about the fact that the
worldy population is very young and has suffered in its
younth, specially in Africa where irresponsible policies
have made the worst happen too often – a child with a
kalachnikov is not really a beauty of this world – there is
a kind or emergency to stop the source of this form of
misery that tends to reproduce the war facts and the
calamity from a generation to another or at the third
generation – these issues are well known and documented
[03:30] 4) a massive distribution of books,
broadcast of well pondedred educational programs on
radio, the spreading on the Internet of legal Hubs socially
and “knowledgely” oriented would benefit the local
economies, reduce the exploitation and oppression – all
this could be done with minimal investments by the will of
the Allies to bypass in this sector the tragedy of the
priming markets – this is where politic can offer a start, a
jump in quality that markets will never bother to envisage
[03:36] all this as a global policy decided within
the international instances such as UNESCO, UNICEF, UN,
and also these summits that tend to serve only a cold war
endless negociation, G8, G20, tomorrow G200 why not
towards the United States of the World don’t laugh or
please laugh it is a good news
– as a duty to take the
measure of the fact that the world is very young and will
would end soon if the consciouness comes not to us and
them that, we are the old XXth century and it is about to
organize the XXIth, the XXth, and so forth, so that people
don’t necessarily have to be parked, killed, deported or
fueled by the thirst of future vengeance and the
catastrophe cortege of the repetition of the traumas
[03:46] 5) a final word concerning medication :
most people with conditions are not afraid of the fact that
sanity is the human nature as it is able to repair and cope
naturally with most of the common damages. The way,
since the antique Egypt, the sanity is confiscated by an art
taken to the status of a “science”, namely medicine, is
hiding a major fact statistics show however constantly
since they exsist under the label nosocomial disasters : the
health systems kill much more people than they save. There
are always several understanding of a situation and if
one considers the fact that entering a hospital means, very
often, entering a deadly circle that will ultimately end by
the production of a cadaver, one can consider the
opportunity to – not reduce the number of beds in the
medical system – simply to delocalize the beds within
[03:48] (part of the sentence were rejected by the
script – the server had it, nm)
[03:48] to delocalize beds within the homes of the
people
[03:49] starting with the education in our
schools of elementary principles or medecine for instance
the cell the body the mind the viability the risk the delay
the incubation the expert analysis etc.
[03:50] this way older people wouldn’t have to
suffer from the medical system any longer or the least if
possible
[03:51] they would live healthier and would die
more naturally knowing about how when and why, having
the cursors and the parameters to their knowledge and
appreciation
[03:51] to end about specific ptsd situation : if
the person is not yet able to understand the pathology he
is sufferering from, explain
[03:53] if the person is declaring suffering from
the extra symptomas of the medication, consider the
resurgence of a ptsd within the ptsd : discuss and find
someting else as a treatment
[03:55] if the person is unwilling to discuss, let
the liberty and freedom be! the constitution is
guarranting the freedom! and inform, consider, address,
deliver samples, information letters, – this is the idea and
the main difficulty at the same time
[03:55] if the person is showing dangerous
behaviour, well … freedom is or, there is no pathology
[03:55] period
[03:58] This last point is what is mainly forgotten
and bypassed in Europe within the laws and project to
come dedicated to a normalization forced by the various
authorities, police, brute force! – and this is the object of
the call for a relief and a vast negociation about what we
want as a society (sorry to insist)
[04:01] there are circles that cannot be broken by
the current proposals : trauma, stress, living in the street,
police brutality, substance abuses, violence, trauma, stress,
living in the street, police brutality, substance abuses,
violence, trauma, stress, and so on
[04:03] the paradox is that : in the mind of the
ptsd victim, the person remains a victim – and in the mind
of the (mostly) local authorities, he is the violence to
sacrify on the altar of personal issues themselves
considered as ptsd issues from a study point of view (all
this is documented no need to extrapolate)
[04:06] so that the breaking of the circle only
appear to be a good of the offer itself that is : authority
forces have to be educated to the studies – vast program
indeed and, a necessity somehow, less guns and taesers,
more social sciences – and as we said the good situation
could be amorced by employing educated veterans to the
accompagnatin of the actual forces to begin to make every
one understand that, war is over, civil war at least
[04:10] towards this direction several cultural
facts could help understanding the problematic, such as
studies about the art movement called relational arts and
starting from Indonesia with R. Tiravanija who proposed
at the time a few years before the end of the XXth, to
organize workgroups and workshops getting the
participants involved into the party that was the ultimate
opus of the art form considered.
[04:11] thanks to Junko Hikita and her teachers
for the discovery of many of the forms of this movement
which is still alive and taking its backgrounds in the work
of Gordon Matta-Clark at the times in the NY of the late
60ies
[04:13] the movement was said to be failing as
the most attached to fighting, the critics, found the
workshops to be annoying that is, lacking the sense of
mockery and ultimately to translate this into the civil
society, and absurdly, lacking the sense of “blood” ..
[04:15] and there are several ways to intricate
the social work with relationships : mainly two, either one
considering the notion of security and enforcement —
either another one considering the good will of the
workshop in itself to populate its own area of being
together and maintenance
[04:17] so that, in our ptsd study and about to
shorten the debate, the force always fails because the
feeling of the people of being together is always stronger –
and the participation without the help of the “social”
aspect of the security is always a way of control, what
control people do perfectly understand and realize the
limitation of and the aim, and tend naturally to bypass,
overwhelm, or destroy like sabotage
[04:19] such as the way to obtain better results is
mostly about declaring the idea the aim and the
problematic to the people in question – which is not done
in Europe as said insistantly as mainly the interests are
always hidden by the false pudor of the reality …
corruption and fraud …
[04:20] this has not to be in the USA we would
like to live with, nor about the necessary opening of the
Gaza Strip, nor anywhere else by all means of success
[04:20] _ “